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Miyerkules, Oktubre 22, 2014

DE: Tactical Battle Report #2

Yeah, I'm a little evil, so what?

I wasn't sure if I was going to post this at first because it was a relatively short game vs. Tau, but I figured why not, some people might learn something. My opponent Craig brought some new stuff that I haven't seen before, some of which was from FW and I was pretty excited to see what they can bring to the battlefield.

My 1850 Pure DE was the same thing I've been using the last couple of days.

The Kabal of Grey Death.

Right now, I've gotten a lot of games with them both IRL and in Vassal, and while I've lost one vs. a very competitive Mechdar list, I've won all the rest.

The army I'm playing against today had:
Buffmander, twin-linked and ignore cover if he doesn't shoot
3 units of Fire Warriors, with a Fireblade attached to one
FW XV107 R'Varna
FW Knarloc
Riptide, Ion
a unit of Pathfinders with Devilfish
a unit of Broadsides
a big unit of Kroot with hounds and Shaper
I might have missed something, but this should suffice!

This is what deployment looked like.

Deployment was Dawn of War, Night Fighting was on, and I had first turn with the Conqueror of Cities as my roll on the Strategic tree. The mission itself was The Scourging, with 6 points spread around the table, but this game didn't really go that far for it to play a factor. I deploy defensively even though I'm going first because one, Seize is a game mechanic and two, I'm playing against Tau. Knowing the range of their weapons is very important because you want to be able to bring most if not all of your weapons to bear while you isolate and destroy pockets of their army. You do this with your superior speed since everything can move 12" and still do damage.

Turn 1 Dark Eldar - End of movement.

After deployment, most of my units moved 12" so I can play as aggressive as I can to the Tau player. The reason why you have to play aggressive vs. the blue fishgoats is because your damage is done in advancing layers. As you move into closer and closer range bands, your damage accelerates dramatically, adding both poisoned shots from your Warriors inside your vehicles and their blasters as well. For example, in this particular army list, I open up with 36 poisoned shots and 12 lances from 36" away. At 18", I have 6 more blasters and a good amount of poisoned shooting. At 12", all of my warriors in gunboats are rapid firing with Splinter Rack re-rolls. This is exponential damage that gets inflicted as you advance towards the enemy, not to mention my reserves that brings in 6 more lances from the Archon's Blasterborn boat, 4 more from the Razorwings and 4 S6 large blasts.

Turn 1 Dark Eldar - Strategy.

OK, so the strategy here was pretty straight forward. We gotta kill that ridiculous R'Varna battlesuit because it can do an insane amount of damage to my vehicles with its large templates. When I asked him what it did, I basically spaced out midway after hearing some insane things and decided yeah, that needs to die ASAP. Anywho, I am able to be aggressive with the vehicles in the middle, as long as I can shield some of the return fire without having to Jink from the Fire Warriors in the middle grey building on his side of the board, and the far right building marked with the pink star. While my Ravagers are pretty open, I really needed to get my lances to bear onto his big mech and draw LoS to his Broadsides. The warrior gunboat on the far left moves aggressively behind cover while drawing a headshot on his R'Varna.

Turn 1 Dark Eldar - Shooting.

All of the Venoms open up and force enough wounds to put the big mech to 1W. The remaining lances marked in purple was enough to put him down, even though through the cover saves. This allowed me to re-purpose my Ravagers and other lances into the Broadsides, forcing enough ID wounds through cover to take them out of the game. This eliminated all sources of Skyfire and Interceptor from his army, while a single lance marked in light blue hit the Knarloc in the face. The snapfiring warriors inside was able to force a wound onto it after Splinter Rack re-rolls. A few rolls here and there from the Venoms in the front was able to put some lucky wounds on the Kroot in the middle as well. Never forget about your Rapid Fire weapons, even if they are forced to snap after moving 12". You never know what you can roll with Splinter Racks. Oh, and take note of that back right Ravager shooting through cover and into cover at the Broadsides. He's getting a 4+ cover either way, so why not?

Turn 2 Dark Eldar - End of movement.

On his reply back, he was only able to put hull point damage on one of the Ravagers and glance a Raider after forcing them to Jink. None of them died because of the Stealth, and even with the Buffmander giving re-rolls and Ignore Cover on a unit of Fire Warriors, he was unable to do enough damage to down any of my vehicles.

I flat out ignored the Pathfinders last turn for a reason: I knew his return fire would be greatly diminished if I killed the key elements that can break through armor. What'd you know? It worked. Pathfinder bonuses are worthless if there's not enough powerful shooting to retaliate with.

Turn 2 Dark Eldar - Strategy.

On my turn, all my reserves came in and I painted the giant squad of Kroot in the middle with my Razorwings. The gunboat advanced on the Fire Warriors with cover on the far left, and the rest of my army re-purposed themselves to isolate and destroy the remaining Riptide hiding behind that building marked with the green star. I don't know if you guys can see from this picture, but the Archon's Blasterborn was behind some Ruins on far right, drawing 18" from an angle onto his Riptide. Say hello to 6 lances to the dome!

Turn 2 Dark Eldar - Shooting.

The gunboat on the far left did some serious damage to the FW on the left and enough to force a panic after 4 die. Combined fire from the Razorwings, one of the gunboats and some warriors inside the Venom on the building put down most of the Kroot while the remaining dog is fleeing from the table. Everything else is freed up at this point to go into the Riptide and my opponent throws up the white flag. I literally killed everything on the left side of the board while forcing enough poison saves and lances through cover to drop the remaining Riptide.

"I'm done. Please stop shooting me."

The end of the game looked like this, no mercy for the Tau. I drag every single one of the goatfishmen people back to be experimented on, after graciously accepting their surrender of course.

Alright, so I'm not sure if I should bring my Dark Eldar to work events any more after this game. While Craig has played some competitive units, he also took some other units that he wanted like Knarloc. Let's just say that the Dark Eldar are the zookeepers of the galaxy, and I'm happy to see MCs across the table no matter where I go. We talked a bit after the game and while R'Varna does serious work, he can still die from combined fire coming from a Dark Eldar army. The 2W 2+ save on the Broadsides mean absolutely jackshit to lances and if you force enough wounds, they will die from failing cover saves. I tell Craig that I play "fluffy" too, taking all Kabal elements and not giving a shit about Haemonculi, but I see the game primarily in vectors, percentages and numbers. I'm basically playing XCOM in real life.

This right here is what Dark Eldar is about: Hit hard, hit fast, and control the tempo of the game in your favor. Isolate and destroy as many heavy weapons as possible and the rest of the game is just clean up. Anyways, next game will be with my shitty ass Tyranids.

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Biyernes, Oktubre 17, 2014

DE: Tactical Battle Report #1

Class is back in session!

I'm going to try something different with this BR, and hopefully turn this into a tactica like I did in the past. For those long-time fans that remember that tournament, that was the first time I used a picture system like this one to capture my thoughts and tactics.

Alright, so what did I have here. Mission was The Relic (deployed long ways) vs. my buddy Scott at work who was piloting the CSM vs. my pure DE list. You guys should know what that looks like by now, but if you don't, here's a picture of the army!

The Kabal of Grey Death ready to ravage!

For those of you cringing at the fact that models are not painted, I know, it's pretty shameful. Or is it? Because all the time I could be painting, I have dedicated to strategy, tactics and building new models so I can actually apply these strategy and tactics. All of the time I have for the hobby, I put into improving myself as a player. Luckily, the places I play at around here do not require painting, and when they do, I forfeit my painting score because I only care about Best General.

The list that my friend was piloting was:
Chaos Sorc using Lore of Slaanesh
in a big unit of Noise Marines in a Rhino with Blastmaster and FNP banner
2x units of min cultists for scoring
a min unit of Noise Marines hiding in the buildings with a Blastmaster
a big unit of Havocs with 4x Autocannons
a MoNurgle Soulgrinder with Skyfire and the large template
a Lv.3 Keeper of Secrets with Telepathy, 2 Greater Gifts (which got Invis, Shrouding, Scream and Terrify)
a Heldrake waiting to eat my face from reserve
and a unit of min Raptors with meltas

Dark Eldar - Turn 1 - After movement.

So here's what the terrain and battlefield looks like on the end of my turn, you can see the Relic starring down both of us while we wait for the battle to unfold. Even with my re-roll on the Strategic tree, I got 6, which resulted in nothing happening for me. I can't remember his Warlord trait, but my WWP Archon and his Blasterborn sit in reserve alongside my 2x Razorwings. First turn goes to me and Night Fighting is on.

Dark Eldar - Turn 1 - Strategy.

I don't know how to name this slide, but I called it "strategy". The reason why I called it that is because I wanted to talk about the principle strategy behind playing Dark Eldar, which is to: Inflict as much damage as you can while receiving little damage in return. I'll start with the green star as it shows that the Ravager on top, on the side, and the Venom shooting the door (inside the house) are all pretty much hard covered from the shooting options on the blue and yellow X. At the same time, the 3 ships on the far left which is marked as the blue star, receives almost complete shooting immunity to the pink min Blastmaster squad while still having firing opportunities at the leftmost infantry, and the Keeper. This means that the Soul Grinder and the Havocs need to reach long and far at the far left, shooting into cover on far right, or shoot at the middle which is to be expected. I figured that was a good trade because I needed to range in on his Keeper for the extra shots, and I have the momentum with Night Fighting on.

Dark Eldar - Turn 1 - Shooting.

Scott makes the mistake in leaving his Keeper of Sercrets behind some buildings and my entire army jumps on it like a pack of wild dogs. What you don't see here is that on the far right, a Venom is shooting out of a doorway that's under the Ravager. You can see from all the lances and poison shots converging on the Keeper, that the dude did not have a good day. He drops dead on Turn 1 (far left star) and my last lancer gets a side shot that blows up his Sorc unit's Rhino.

Dark Eldar - Turn 2 - After movement.

His reply back was short and violent as he pops one of the forward Raiders and force 2 Ravagers to Jink. He also ends up annihilating the 3-man unit of Kabalite Warriors that you see there, which is only reduced to that because of the Raider exploding and killing 7 inside. On my turn, everything comes on to do their dirty business.

Dark Eldar - Turn 2 - Strategy.

The strategy here is that the placement of the Archon's unit made it so nothing in his army can reply to it except for the Oblits. The yellow X shows where the Blastmaster is, and while it Ignores Cover, he didn't really get as much damage as he wanted from it. If he re-positioned to get a shot on the Archon's Raider, he would only be shooting S5. That was a chance I was willing to take. I think the results on one of the Raiders in the front was a hull point off after the pen. If you look carefully on the left and how the Raiders and Venoms are placed, you will know that red X will not be able to do solid damage thanks to the slight occlusion of the ruins, and I'm offering nothing for his blast opportunities because the units are spread out well. Likewise, his answers to reply on the far right is mediocre at best. My green star unit and the Venom that's still hiding inside the broken building knows that his answers are limited, so they're feeling pretty safe, especially now since I have the Blasterborn unit floating around in his back lines.

Dark Eldar - Turn 2 - Shooting.

DE shooting was extremely bloody this turn as the Razorwings opens up with missiles and lances onto the top area of Havocs. They kill everyone but one guy who later runs off like a pansy. The Ravagers on the right move over to hit the Soul Grinder who is now out of cover, and though one is snapfiring, I still manage to put 2 hull points on the damn thing. Focus fire into the exposed squad does almost nothing as my opponent makes more armor saves than I have seen in my life playing against Space Marines, and most of my lances miss or fail to wound. The two gunboats on the left move up and erase a squad of Cultists and continue shooting at some Nurglings who scouted their way into the ruins a turn before. They literally just sat there and looked cute, and also soaked up fire from my gunboats the previous turn. Damn you Shrouding and Ruins.

My Archon came in from the back to shoot at the Obliterators who was responsible for killing a Raider, but completely wiffed on his attempt as the entire squad either missed or did no damage. Out of 6 lances, I put one wound on the unit of 3, which didn't kill because he was T5 thanks to Mark of Nurgle.

Dark Eldar - Turn 3 - After movement.

So his Chaos chicken comes on and doesn't really do anything. I think it glances a few things here and there but it's nothing important. His reserves didn't come in and he was kinda bummed about that as well. By now, things are looking really grim for the CSM as my ships are surrounding the remnants of his army and I'm inflicting horrible losses to him as the turns drag on. He kills my Archon's boat with the Oblits, but now I'm running around with a few leftover Blasterborn harassing his back lines.

Dark Eldar - Turn 3 - Strategy.

The main thing to take from this picture is that I moved full speed with my Razorwings in hopes that his Heldrake won't be able to hit them. This way, I'm still able to maximize on my damage potential on the targets in front of me. At this point, the Soul Grinder is just overwhelmed and I'm on cleanup duty. My yellow star marks where the Archon and his unit is, basically hiding for their lives until reinforcements can reach them.

Dark Eldar - Turn 3 - Shooting.

Shooting here is as expected. A ton of shooting goes into the unit in the middle and they just get wiped off the face of the map. Now that my Venoms are closer, I'm able to shift the majority of my firepower from poison to heavy lances, therefore killing any and everything that's T4 FNP. Since his Sorc is in the back of the unit, I use poison shots first to strip off what I can before saturating the unit with lances until there's nothing left. A single shot at the Soul Grinder ends up doing nothing thanks to Shrouded and Cover, and I choose to move max speed with my Razorwings so I can channel the remaining airpower into the Oblits. With the help of a couple of Venoms and some stray lances, I put them down like a wounded animal.

Alright, so that wasn't the most exciting game, but hopefully the pictures and drawings I made helped you understand Dark Eldar a little bit more. The army itself is just extremely fragile, but it hits hard enough to threaten a lot of things in the game. When it comes down to it, the only way Dark Eldar can win at this game is being able to inflict a lot of damage while denying damage in return. You can apply all kinds of cover mechanics, blocking LoS and utilizing the surrounding terrain, shoot through windows and open doors, and even shooting through cover when you know your opponent will receive the same degree of cover.

At the end of this game, I had a few people ask me if I still think Dark Eldar are bad. Yes, I do, because while they can play decently at casual levels, I'm unsure about their performance on the competitive plane. I guess being an Archon for 14 years also helps, since Dark Eldar is not the most noob-friendly of all armies.

Let me know how you feel about this battle report!

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DE: Some random helpful tips #1

Get hit by that Dark Lance. Feelsgoodman.

I typed a good amount today on the forums, and here is what I had to say about a variety of subjects. All of which pertains to my idea of a successful Kabal list, since all of these are common elements in my army lists.

On Aethersails..
I would argue that Aethersails are even better in a DS list because you can correct a bad scatter with the extra range.

While AS is not mandatory, they're cheap enough to be spammed on almost all of our vehicles. I would say they're more useful on back-field captures units like 5-man lancers, and less useful on gunboats because they really want to be moving 6" and rapid-firing every turn.

Either way, if you have the points, buy into them. At 5 points, I use them as space fillers that give me more strategic value than a single Night Shield.

On Knights or LR spam..
With the loss of reliable mass haywires, the Achilles is literally a hard counter to everything in our book.

If you're going to be playing against that crap, I would really suggest you look into Eldar allies. Why? Because they have access to S10 AP2 Distort weapons that don't care about the likes of Achilles and other LR-variants. Not to mention we have a very solid way to delivering them to areas they will find most displeasing, on the side, rear, in cover, however we want. With the Autarch in our midst, we can also deliver other popular Eldar weapons in there, and with greater accuracy. Units like Fire Dragons do wonders vs. the standard non-Achilles LR. These elements are also our best answer to Knights, since you're just as dangerous in melee with Meltabombs.

Now that you said you want pure DE, that, my friend, is going to be really bad for you. The only thing you can do at this point is load up on lances, blasters, blasterborn, and heat lances. Forget the Scourges, I seriously think they're utter crap and people are just excited to use them because of their price drop. At the end of the day, they're still 5 T3 dudes with cover saves that will die to any kind of retaliatory anti-infantry shooting.

We're not concerned at all with LR rush, as we have lances for days and even more once they get within Blaster range. That's why you slowly push against that kind of list because at best, you can use the terrain to your advantage as you get closer and closer towards them.

For example, this is the pure DE list I play in an mechanized meta:

Updated: 10/14/14
1850
20 KP

HQ:
Archon, WWP, Blaster, Haywire = 115

TROOP:
5x Warriors, Blaster, Raider Lance/AS = 120
5x Warriors, Blaster, Raider Lance/AS = 120
5x Warriors, Blaster, Raider Lance/AS = 120
10x Warriors, Blaster, Raider Lance/AS/SR = 175
10x Warriors, Blaster, Raider Lance/AS/SR = 175
10x Warriors, Blaster, Raider Lance/AS/SR = 175

ELITE:
5x Trueborn, 4x Blaster, Raider Lance/AS/NS = 195

FAST:
Razorwing, Lances = 140
Razorwing, Lances = 140

HEAVY:
Ravager, Lances = 125
Ravager, Lances = 125
Ravager, Lances = 125

Your opening reply is 15 lances and as you reach the 18" range mark, you're adding +6. Razors coming in gives you +4, the Blasterborn unit itself gives you +6 (Blasterchron and Raider). By T2, you can have 31 lances at your opponent if nothing dies (tall order, but it exists). You still have enough anti-infantry via the gunboats to do something, but you can always drop the entire unit down and save 165 points (enough for another Razorwing or a unit of 9x Reavers with Heat Lances if you also cut some sails).

The fact of the matter is: DE does not care about Land Raiders. To us, they're overpriced Chimeras because you're essentially shooting at the same thing. As an Dark Eldar player.. when life throws you lemons, throw back Dark Lances.

I'll quote something I said in another thread:
(see below on Dark Lances)

Which is another reason why I don't like Scourges with HWB. They do absolutely jack crap to a lot of the targets I listed above.

Out of everything your opponents can bring, the one thing that really stands out is the ridiculous Achilles. That thing was made to reduce everything that we have to paperweight, and I god damn hate the designers for that. Before, our reply was a quick swift kick in the nuts via Wyches with Haywires, but now we have to rely on Eldar allies to bring in Wraithguard. The same can apply with Imperial Knights, but because you can pin-point drop the Blasterchron's unit, you can get easy shots from the back. That and the fact you can use your speed to get around the void shields sometimes.

Eldar just brings so much to the table for us, especially with the Autarch's Fusion Gun and Archon's WWP/Blaster combo. It allows us to bring in reserves with consistency, gives us Wraithguard, Wraithknights, and Fire Dragons, all of which just reduce mech lists to molten slag. The Wraithguard are especially effective, as you can take a big unit of 10 of them, run them with a Spiritseer (Iyandnen CAD), attach the WWP/Blasterchron and you're good to go. Now you're walking around with T6 3+ and a Archon tanking all the hits with Shadowfield from the front, after you've casted Invisibility on yourself, forcing everything to snap shot at you. It's ridiculous, and can single-handily walk over the entire LR force by itself.

The Wraithknight also allows you to threaten AV14 turn after turn from a distance, can keep pace with the rest of your army, and punch out the Achilles in close combat because of S10 MC and a decent amount of attacks.

If you want to play competitive, play competitive. Taking a pure DE list is not as competitive as Eldar allies, but it does have answers specifically for the Land Raider. Vs. the Achilles, you have to look elsewhere.

On Mechdar with 2x Wraithknights..
That list exists soley to punish 2 specific lists in the meta: Mechdar that's not running WK, and pure Tau, as both of these have no solid solution vs. 2x WK.

I agree with Mandor in saying that the Wraithknight is superior. He just offers so much more to the table not only in durability (vs. most things in the meta as opposed to niche things like Agonizers), threat range and better weapons. The fact that he's S10 also gives him dominance over T5 mult-wound and just stomps the crap outta any vehicle in close combat. Being completely immune to bolters, while hilarious, is not as impactful as a meltaguns and lances only wounding on 4s.

On the importance of Dark Lances vs. poison weapons..
Then I would argue he doesn't have enough anti-tank and an over saturation of poison.

S8 AP2 Lance is not just our answer for vehicles btw, it's the answer to everything in life, Terminators, Bikes, Riptides, Dreadknights, Wraithknights that are exposed, basically anything T4 multi-wound (Oblits, Broadsides, Nobz), the list goes on and on.

We have plenty of anti-infantry in our army, and while that can be a good thing, it can be misleading when designing your list. We have to maximize on our lances if we're to make a big impression on targets with 2+ AS because we don't have reliable melee solutions to those. Poison is good, but not enough to punch holes in what we really need to down in most cases. That's why you must have a healthy amount of lances in your army.

Which is another reason why I don't like Scourges with HWB. They do absolutely jack crap to a lot of the targets I listed above.

On Archon and Shadowfields..
Nah, his entire purpose in life is to guide a unit down and nothing more. Well, besides a BS7 Blaster shot from 18" away! If he dies, he dies, but hopefully he'll make his points back guiding the blasterborn unit down and blowing up whatever he's shooting at.

He failed miserably in my last game when he came down and didn't do jackshit vs. a unit of Oblits, but at least that took some of their attention off of the rest of the army because I now have 6 lances prowling behind the backlines. That's absolutely huge, having essentially 2 Ravagers behind someone's backfield making them cry.

That, in itself, is well worth the 110 points you invest in him. If you do take a Shadowfield, then I suggest him leading a unit of Wraithguard, so he can tank all the shots coming at him from the front. That's the only instance I would take SF on him, not for combat, but so he can tank shots until the end of the phase from more important targets (e.g. Wraithguard, Fire Dragons).

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Miyerkules, Oktubre 15, 2014

DE: Realspace Raiders Detachment

And the award for worst Warlord Traits goes to...

We've all probably looked at it by now and I know the thought of having 6 FA slots makes some Reaver-happy players foam at the mouth. However, we must analyze this in an intelligent manner and verify if the FA slot does indeed allow us to be competitive.

First, the Realspace Raiders Detachment and what it offers you:

Basically the same army except you have 6 FA slots to play with.
Restrictions: All units in this Detachment must have the Dark Eldar Faction (or have no Faction).
Benefit - Realspace Raider: If this Detachment is your Primary Detachment, you can re-roll the result when rolling on the Warlord Traits table in the Codex: Dark Eldar.
Benefit - Hunter from the Shadows: During the entire first game turn, and during any turn in which the Night Fighting rules are in effect, all Troops units from this Detachment have a 5+ cover save, and all other units from this Detachment have a 6+ cover save.

The first thing I have to ask myself is.. if I buy Raiders as dedicated transports for my troop choices, are they considered to be in 5+ cover? Not the guys inside, but the Raiders themselves. I would like to think yes because you're buying them in the troop slot.

It goes without saying that while Hunter from the Shadows can be good, I think we can all agree that it's not entirely game-changing. All other units having a 6+ cover means absolutely jack shit with all things considered, especially when most buildings/ruins is 4+ and that you'd be stupid not deploying with at least some kind of cover. No one really shoots in the wide-open field, so I don't think that the cover saves will be entirely useful. If the 5+ cover also affects Raiders, I can see it being slightly useful as you can decide to not Jink and just take the cover save so you don't need to Snapfire. Whether or not this is a good idea is also questionable.

As for the whole re-rolling on the DE Warlord Traits, this is a huge flop for anyone not taking a melee-centric Warlord. In the list that I'm going to post with this detachment in mind, 4 of the 6 traits available to me are absolutely useless. The only one I'm looking forward to is 2 - Labyrinthine Cunning, since it 's pretty much the best trait in the tree. The ability to re-roll Seize, Night Fighting and Reserves is just godlike. Towering Arrogance can be decent in later game when all your shit is getting shot to death, so a bubble of Fearless might not be too bad, but if you get to the later parts of the game to begin with, you will probably already have Fearless from Power from Pain. Overall, the Warlord Traits presented here is a huge flop, and the designers responsible need to be sent to the Wych pits (so the Wyches can tear them apart for all the unneeded nerfs).

So what does your list look like with 6 FA slots? A lot of people are thinking about tons of MSU Reavers, but I'm not sure if that's all that great. Others are thinking 120 point HWB Scourges to go with their Ravagers, but where are they getting the points for all that? So the question to ask yourself is this: Is this detachment and the 6 FA slots really worth not having Objsec and re-roll on the Strategic tree? I would love having almost ALL of the traits from there.

Anyways, here's what my pure DE list can look like under Realspace Raiders:

1850

20 KP

HQ:

Archon, WWP, Blaster = 110

TROOP:

5x Warriors, Blaster, Raider Lance/AS = 120

ELITE:

5x Trueborn, 4x Blaster, Raider Lance/AS/NS = 195

FAST:

Razorwing, Lances/NS = 155

Venom SC = 65

HEAVY:

Ravager, Lances = 125

With this list, you have the MSU playstyle of Warriors in Raiders, giving you 14 lances on the opening salvo, followed by 48 Venom shots coming from your supporting fire. Is it more effective than my battle-forged pure Dark Eldar list I posted previously? I personally don't think because I don't think it has the staying power or the objective-capturing flexibility. The warlord traits alone is enough to deter me from building this style of list, but I'm throwing this out there so people can analyze for themselves.

Let me know what you think.

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Lunes, Oktubre 13, 2014

DE: Running pure Dark Eldar

Arrogance and cunning.

My approach for pure DE is pretty straight forward, but I have lances on everything that I can and completely skipped melee. My reasoning for that is that any melee options in our codex is just too cliche. There's no glory to be had in this very shooty edition, and the fact that we lost Haywires further limits our use of melee because frankly, our melee options are too slow. Those that are not too slow are either too expensive and not worth the points, or are just flatout subpar.

The direction I want to explore is this:

Updated: 10/14/14
1850
20 KP

HQ:
Archon, WWP, Blaster, Haywire = 115

TROOP:
5x Warriors, Blaster, Venom SC = 120
5x Warriors, Blaster, Venom SC = 120
5x Warriors, Blaster, Venom SC = 120
10x Warriors, Blaster, Raider Lance/AS/SR = 175
10x Warriors, Blaster, Raider Lance/AS/SR = 175
10x Warriors, Blaster, Raider Lance/AS/SR = 175

ELITE:
5x Trueborn, 4x Blaster, Raider Lance/AS/NS = 195

FAST:
Razorwing, Lances = 140
Razorwing, Lances = 140

HEAVY:
Ravager, Lances = 125
Ravager, Lances = 125
Ravager, Lances = 125

Shoot with lances, maybe swap in some Venoms in your list and keep them in the backfield, WWP Archon delivers a killsquad of lances to someone's ass, while Razorwings do the heavy lifting for anti-infantry. Ravagers can start off on the board shooting, in combination with the 3x smaller Warrior units. If you want to apply pressure with all your lances, feel free to do so because you'll have 12-15 to shoot off at the beginning of the round.

Night Shields are a scam. The 3+ Jink is not worth 1/4th the price of the vehicle. I see what you're saying about the flyers, but the thing is AV10. If it's going to get shot by anything worthwhile, you're most likely going to eat enough fire to disappear anyway. In my experience, the guys who take Skyfire in their lists is going to kill whatever they're shooting at in most cases.

If I had extra points to take on NS, it would be on the Flyers, or Blasterchron's pimp-ride. Think about it this way though, even if you don't take NS on the flyers, just blow your load on an angle that can be reached by a board edge. That way, if you take any damage next turn, hopefully you can just Supersonic off.

Other variants of this list can see:

5x Warriors, Blaster, Venom SC = 120

This is my standard Venom Warrior unit. I use this to pick at my opponents and offer a long-ranged anti-infantry solution. This unit should be used as long-ranged support, but also advance up if you need additional lance support from 18" away due to the Blaster. Never forget that you have guys inside that can also shoot poisoned shots.

Otherwise, I suggest taking at least some gunboats in your list:

10x Warriors, Blaster, Raider Lance/AS/SR = 175

This is my gunboat variant in its current form. You run it 50 points more expensive, but you get 18 rapid fire poisoned shots from 12" away, in addition to 1 Blaster shot on whatever target that you shoot. Keep in mind that the Raider's lance is its own unit, so you can pop a transport and then shoot at its contents inside with your warriors. Being a larger unit also means that it has more staying power than the two above, so the 50 extra points you pay is for more bodies and more anti-infantry. This one should be best used while close to your opponents, which means DS or steady advancement towards the frontlines. Also keep in mind that the dudes inside are not subject to Raider's Jink snapfire restrictions, and never forget that Rapid Fire can now shoot from 24", just in case you want to get off a few wounds.

Regardless of setup, all of my vehicles come with Enhanced Aethersails whenever I can afford them. They allow me to move a consistent +6" more in the TB phase, which means I can correct poor DS or get behind cover to await further opportunities.

And lastly, do remember that all of these are meta-calls. In a infantry-rich environment like Footcrons, Greentide and Tyranids, Venoms and Gunboats do quite well. In more Mech, you want 5-man Lance Raiders for the cheaper AT. No matter what, you still need some kind of anti-infantry somewhere in your list, so it all depends on what the rest of your list looks like as well. Furthermore, I would not drop the Blasterchron with the WWP. It's seriously one of the best things in the book: Giving you 6 lances where you want it, how you want it.

That's just too good to pass up. Oh, for Warlord traits, you really want the Strategic tree. While the 2nd from the DE tree is amazing, you really gotta fish for it, even with the re-roll.

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DE: What will your competitive 1850 look like?

Let's go Autarch!

This is a great exercise. Like I said, the idea would not to be to criticize your list, but present a possible solution to Mechdar and other high competitors.

Here are the restrictions:
http://www.frontlinegaming.org/community/bay-area-open-2014/bao-tournament-format/

You're building for 1850, and the meta will look like this:

Mechdar, 2x WK-variant, Autarch variant, Spiritseer/Wraithguard, all of these lists may or may not have Farseers to provided Shrouded.
Tau, with possible SM allies, assume your standard gunline with Broadsides, Buffmander, Kroot backfielders and Riptides. New suit will be allowed at the event.
Space Marine-variants, possible Imperial Knight allies (made popular last major), but almost always grav-shooting
Imperial Knights
Chaos Space Marines, typical Nurgle play + Heldrakes
Necrons, big infantry or MSU mech-playstyles with Ghost Arks, Lord in Chariot and Annihilation Barges
Demons, typical flying circus
Tyranids, while rare, almost always come with dual dakka-Flyrants.

I listed this in the order of most frequently encountered and the hardest matchups for us (IMO). If I showed up at this event, I would take heavy Eldar support.

1850
20 KP

HQ:
Archon, WWP, Haywire = 100
Autarch, Fusion Gun = 80*

TROOP:
5x Warriors, Blaster, Raider/AS = 120
5x Warriors, Blaster, Raider/AS = 120
5x Warriors, Blaster, Raider/AS = 120
5x Warriors, Blaster, Raider/AS = 120
5x Dire Avengers, WS/Holo/SS/Scatter = 210*
5x Dire Avengers, WS/Holo/SS/Scatter = 210*

FAST:
5x Fire Dragons, WS/Holo/SS/Scatter = 255*

HEAVY:
Ravager, Lances = 125
Ravager, Lances = 125
Ravager, Lances = 125
Night Spinner, Holo/SS = 140*

The playstyle is MSU, Archon is set as WWP bitch for the Fire Dragon's unit so it can come down and hopefully take down 2 units. The Autarch is also in the same unit with the Fusion Gun, while taking advantage of the +1 reserve rule to bring in for alpha strike, or counter-reserve vs. enemy Eldar forces not using the Autarch. The Fire Dragons have meltabombs, the Autarch comes with a Haywire and your own Archon has one as well, making them highly dangerous in an assault vs. any armored foe. The pinpoint WWP drop will also make sure that I can get the jump in on a Knight, and hopefully take it down with a lucky salvo.

The list is constructed to take maximum firepower and ranged dominance for anti-tank, having no less than 13 lance shots at 36", which synergizes with the Wave Serpent's ability to follow suit with Scatter Lasers and Serpent Shields. The Night Spinner is there to flush out tightly enemy Eldar hiding behind any buildings, since S8 barrage with typically no cover and side armor is actually not bad if going first.

My biggest challenge here will be opposing WS as they can take out my anti-tank elements if I let them, so the key would be reserve manipulation and deepstrike advantage. My opponent will almost knowingly follow suit, but if he doesn't have an Autarch, I will be able to hold the advantage over him. In a situation that requires me to negotiate a alpha strike, I will need to hide the Night Spinner on the board and just pray for lucky barrage while jinking for my life next turn if he tries to hunt me down.

I know that there is absolutely no presence of air here and that is fine for me, having seen what twin-linked Ignore Cover WS can do to opposing air units, and them doing little to no damage in return because of Fast Skimmer Jinks. Due to the fact that I invested heavily in playing vs. Mech, I'm now vulnerable to stuff like Lootas, any kind of meat tides in general, and maybe even Tyranids considering that I don't have the massed Venom shots. Then again, they don't like a lot of lance shots either, and I do have a healthy amount of S6+ shots myself coming from the WS support. I feel that with this list, I'll also feel good vs. Tau, seeing how enough powerful shooting will hopefully do heavy damage to Broadsides and other T4 instantly-gibbable units, but that's never a sure thing. I know for sure Riptides do not like the high volume of Lances, but Shrouded Wraithknights will most likely have a field day with me. Hopefully, I will be able to negotiate the DS dice-gods into letting me have some Warriors drop down on their face while I concentrate on the lesser amount of WS present in double WK lists.

What will your list look like in 1850 with BAO restrictions in your meta?

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Sabado, Oktubre 11, 2014

DE: Played a bunch of games

Stomping on people's faces.. kinda.

Keep in mind that I always build my lists to be competitive all-comers, none of that tailoring shit. To sum up my experiences so far..

Game #1 - My Tau vs. solo DE with Venomspam

Huge win. Turkey shoot in my favor, even with him going first and getting stealth. The pure amount of S7 twin-linked, SMS and my Drone Controlling Commander just blew him out of the water. I think I killed 2 Ravagers, 4 Venoms and a Raider in my first turn of shooting, while severely crippling other things. Just look at my list below, it's a pretty standard shooting list with Tau.

Game #2 - My DE/Eldar vs. Mechdar

Lose by 2, even with me deploying mostly everything in reserve and hiding my Night Spinner. My DE elements got shot to crap and my WS could not outmatch a greater number of WS and Wraithknights. Razorwings couldn't do anything significant vs. the WKs when they're getting cover + Shrouding from the Telepathy Farseer, and even without AA, he just forced enough twin-linked Ignore Cover shots and killed off my Razorwings without any issues.

Game #3 - My pure DE vs. Tau

Draw. I went first, Ravagers shot into the Broadsides and killed a full unit. Rest of my shooting was uneventful, and I had 3x Razorwings and 2x Gunboats in reserve ready to drop in. I roll like ass for reserves, bringing in 1 Razorwing which gets intercepted and destroyed by the Quad-gun, a single Gunboat comes in and tries to shoot down a half-health Riptide but instead gets Intercepted and exploded, then the rest of my crap blows up because of SMS, Missile Pods, and Ignore Cover MSSS Commander granting it to Crisis Suits. I end up tying the game with First Blood, Warlord (lance gibbed), Linebreaker, and scratching the bottom of the barrel with like 4 Warriors left holding onto an objective.

Game #4 - My Mechdar vs. pure DE

Huge win. The game was over on T1 on my turn. He deploys in front of me under Night Fighting, I had 5x WS, 2x Prisms and a Night Spinner with CHEx on call. Didn't need to do any counter-reserving since an Autarch was my commander. First round begins, I destroy 2 Ravagers, a Venom, 2 Raiders, kill an entire Warrior squad, and another gets pinned, while the Trueborn in the Venom are left staggering. He concedes, even with 2x Haemonculi and 2x Scourges with 4x HWB in reserve. Why would Mechdar care?

Game #5 - My mixed Eldar vs. pure DE

Huge win. I think my opponent had some Groteques, which gets gibbed and shot to crap from my Guide/Divination double WK list, and the rest of his army evaporates to 4x WS with Scatters. This list had more Raiders in there, but it just couldn't do enough damage to my WKs due to BS4, wounding on 4s, cover, and my Farseer was invincible with 2+ cover re-rollable, which the DE player couldn't touch because he's pure DE.

Lists are as follows, all 1850:

Pure DE-

Succubus with 9x Wyches in Raider

3x Gunboats with Warriors in Raiders

2x 5x Warriors in Raiders

All with Blasters, lance on the Raider and Athersails

3x Razorwing with Lances

3x Ravagers

DE/Eldar-

Archon, Autarch

5x Warriors in Raider with Blaster

2x Gunboats with 10x Warriors in Raiders, the works

2x 5x Dire Avengers in Holo WS, Scatter, SC, Stones

2x Razorwing with Lances

3x Ravagers with Lances

1x Night Spinner, Holo, Stones

My Tau-

Buffmander with Drone Controller, MSSS

Fireblade in 12x Fire Warriors

Another 12x Fire Warriors and a smaller 6x Warrior unit

All behind ADL with Quad-gun with Fireblade on the gun

2x XV104 Riptides with Early Warning, SMS and Ion Accel

3x Crisis Suits with TL Missiles, BS Filter and Early Warning

12x Marker Drones chilling with the Buffmander

2x 3x XV88 Broadsides with HY Missiles and Target Lock

1x Hammerhead Gunship with Dpod and Submunitions

My Mechdar-

Autarch

5x Min Dire Avenger WS, Scatters, Holo, Stones

Crimson Hunter Exarch

2x Fire Prisms, Holo, Stones

1x Night Spinner, Holo, Stones

Another version-

Laughing Seer, Telepathy for Shrouding

Autarch for reserves

4x Min Dire Avenger WS, Scatters, Holo, Stones

Crimson Hunter

2x Wraithknights

1x Night Spinner, Holo, Stones

I'm lucky enough to find some Eldar and Tau players on Vassal because that's pretty much all you find in the competitive scene. Tau can do some seriously stupid shit to Dark Eldar, pretty much turning them inside out with all the high-volume, high-strength, Ignore Cover bullshit from a million miles away. At least when I had Night Shields I was able to pick at him from range because I had NS on all my vehicles, now they just don't give a shit. You match range with their 36" Broadsides and you're forced to shoot into cover because you don't have any Ignore Cover of your own. From early observations playing with and against, I would place Tau at 85-15 odds vs. pure DE.

As for Mechdar, lol, forget about it. I don't know how you're supposed to tackle that kind of pressure from Wave Serpents. They move fast, pretty much kills any one of your vehicles with a push of a button, and takes almost no damage on return fire from your lances. If you want to play the DS reserve war, their Autarchs does a better job at it. If you have Scourges, you're screwed because where are you going to drop them that's safe from the Serpents and still do a good job? The fact that they can just move and receive a +1 cover is huge, compared to the Jink saves DE makes and gets completely ignored. Wraithknights punch out Grotesques all day, while their natural T8 make them a nightmare to do damage to with lances. This basically means that you want to take more Venoms naturally, but if you do, you're just going to eat it from Wave Serpents because you really don't have a solid answer. I think this is one matchup you're just going to eat it if you're not taking some Eldar elements yourself. It's almost unwinnable: 95-5 vs. pure DE.

Not only do I feel those two matchups are ridiculously difficult for Dark Eldar, but their books are superior in almost every way. It's all about options, and they got a lot more than we do. Sorry.

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